Soviet amateur inventors created in garages and sheds single copies of gran turismo class cars, single-wheel drive crossovers, SUVs and even amphibians. Some projects received interest at the highest level.
Moskvich 2140 or “kopek”? | Topic author: Vitya
My friends and I argue all the time!
Which do you think is better? Alexey (Monal) I haven’t driven this Muscovite, but a penny (normal) 160 goes, checked, and I heard that these 2140 constantly fuck the brain.
Ivan (Alman) what 2140)) penny forever!!
Bogdan (Cori) Whoops, my opinion, I’m guessing from the 1st Prior that this is a manufacturing mistake, even though IZHIK doesn’t go 160, but it goes 150, you can’t argue with it, check it out in Sibe. MOSKVICH-comfortable interior, quiet in the cabin, economy, metal (mine has 1, 5,), rear There is a lot of space in the front, a large trunk, the engine is powerful, it picks up speed quickly, visibility is better, and if you do it properly with your own hands, then, as some put it, the brain will not be fucked. The kopek is inconvenient in the cabin, especially in the front, the knees rest against the lop, it is noisy, the small trunk quickly rots, the metal is crappy, it eats like a tractor. IN BRIEF, MAY'S OPINION IS A MUSCOVITE THIS IS THE TOPIC!!!
Alexey (Monal) I don’t argue that a penny is not a miracle, but you went overboard about the production error, and the penny 7 is pressing on me, I don’t believe that the 2140 would take less, but if you compare it with the 8, the 2140 is not even close
Bogdan (Cori) Well, 7 liters is not bad, having found eight, you can compare another IZHIK, for example 21251
Roman (Aryiola) Guys! Where do you drive at such speeds, and even at such rarities? Do you have a suicide club? These machines are not structurally designed to move at such speeds! Think about others! About those whom you ram with your rusty fireballs.
And also think about how you will pay if you remain alive. Is a car judged by the speed to which it can be accelerated? So with a fool you can break X.... Now on topic. The Muscovite, whatever it was, never surpassed the Zhiguli in any respect. I mean the driving and performance characteristics of the car, and not the ability to load it with bricks to the very roof. Let's not forget that these are passenger cars. Zhiguli!!!
Alexey (Monal) I agree completely, but you can be sure that about 3 times I gave my kopeck 150-160
Bogdan (Cori) v1 this is not a rarity 2 these are not rusty cars 3 they will go that fast, you don’t have to argue, I checked it myself 4 the MOSKVICH is really more convenient than the Kopeichka 5 the Savetsky cars have better quality than sechas and more metal 6 in ZHYGULI 3 bear of cement kinish and it will sit down on the ass and in MOSKVICH at least 15 will definitely pull 7 Zhiguli have never surpassed Muscovites. I’LL CLEAR to those who don’t know if you throw a box with a BMW 160 into a MOSKVICH using GPS and it’s nothing. Roman Gangalov I would like to see what will happen to your AVESHKA in 7 years.
Alexey (Monal) Okay guys, I’ll say this, every devil praises his own swamp, believe me, I have friends who include Cossacks, and they praise them so much to me, it’s tough.
Roman (Aryiola) Yes, I have no doubt. I have seen such racers more than once on the track. But nothing came to mind other than a funeral march. At this speed it is almost uncontrollable. So why masturbate fate? There is a good group: RESPECT EACH OTHER ON THE ROAD √√ ✖ There are so many Noisefuckers there it makes your hair stand on end..
Bogdan (Cori) If you don’t skimp on the tires, they are very manageable at this speed.
Vitya (Roshawn) In the book “design and operation of the AZLK 2140” it is written that if the engine reaches a speed of less than 150 km, then it must be examined by a specialist, and then someone writes that this is fantastic! And in reality the Muscovite is much more comfortable than the VAZ, especially in front and behind the wheel! Anyone who has ever sat there knows!
Bogdan (Cori) Well there you go!!!
Alexey (Monal) To be honest, I don’t respect this Muscovite (2140) after I once saw how at a turn this Muscovite’s left cardan fell off and rattled along the road, but it looked quite decent, but in general I drove a 412, by the way after the capital, yes, he goes smoothly, I don’t argue, but the traction is not the same, you give him gas, and he will think 3 more times, so he has one and a half times under the hood, compared to mine 1, 2 ((((((
Roman (Aryiola) 13 What kind of sheep could write such a thing in a book? Yes, we don’t have such roads. The maximum speed was 130 as far as I remember. And you need to see a specialist driver who drives a Moskvich at such a speed. No one doubts that it can be accelerated to such speed. The question is: can it be stopped in time? And how many people will suffer. Damn racers.
Alexey (Monal) agrees, well, they are not designed for this kind of driving, 110 didn’t work. That’s all.
Bogdan (Cori) I don’t believe that when I found a money box, I made a money box for myself and it immediately vomited and vomited without even thinking.
Alexey (Monal) well, I’m saying what I had
Vitya (Roshawn) Roman Gangalov, buy the book, read it yourself if you don’t believe it! I’m not writing this as a feint!
Tags: How to make a tractor with your own hands from a Muscovite
Neva from Strelna
Nikolai Yakovlev and Vladimir Kapusto from Strelna, when building two identical cars named Neva, of course, did not count on mass production. But their 1988 SUVs are interesting precisely because, structurally and technologically, they were more suitable for small-scale production than other home-made products.
Two all-wheel drive Nevas by Nikolai Yakovlev and Vladimir Kapusto, equipped with VAZ engines.
Two all-wheel drive Nevas by Nikolai Yakovlev and Vladimir Kapusto, equipped with VAZ engines.
The frame was made of two longitudinal spars, close to the front end, and three transverse beams. The spars consisted of two welded water pipes with a diameter of 32 mm, to which boxes of two L-shaped profiles were welded on top. The square cross-section beams were welded from a steel sheet 2 mm thick. Interestingly, the front beam also served as a reserve tank for oil. The frame of the tent was also made from water pipes.
The Neva could easily be transformed into a pickup truck.
The Neva could easily be transformed into a pickup truck.
Do-it-yourself improvements for a Muscovite | Topic author: Misha
INSTALLATION OF CONDENSERS FOR SMOOTH DYING LIGHTS IN THE CABIN
The installation of capacitors for smooth dimming of light in the cabin is done for aesthetic reasons, because it has no other function. To do this, you need to take large capacitors. In my case, these are two 68,000 uF 25 V capacitors, for a total of 136,000 uF. After closing the door, the light goes out for approximately 5 seconds, which is enough in the dark. It should be noted that all the light bulbs in the cabin are simple, incandescent. There are 6 of them. If you use LEDs instead, the glow duration will be much longer.
Misha (Vasishtha) Engine: from 1.5 (1478) to 2.15 (2149)
On an assembled and run-in engine, the true value of the compression ratio is checked with a compression meter on a warm engine with the spark plugs turned out at 200-250 rpm, i.e. at the speed given by the starter with a fully charged battery. The pressure value at the end of the compression stroke in each cylinder, measured by a compression meter, is easily converted into a compression ratio using the empirical formula: e = (Pc + 3, 9)/1.55 where: e - compression ratio; Рс – pressure measured by a compression meter, kgf/s.m2. The compression ratio measured by pressure Рс must correspond to the calculated one, and the difference in measurements in each cylinder should not exceed 0.5-1 kgf/cm2. This is the key to successful engine operation. Otherwise, it is imperative to find out the cause of the deviations and eliminate it, even if this involves disassembling the engine.
Well, let's start with a brief technical digression. Standard engine 1500 - cylinder diameter 82 mm, piston stroke 70 mm, compression ratio 8.8. After some calculations, we get the displacement of the engine 1478, the volume of the combustion chamber of one cylinder is 47.37. Now we take a piston with a diameter of 92.5 mm, a shaft with an elbow of 40 mm, i.e. stroke is 80 mm. After again, simple calculations, we get a displacement of 2149 cc... and a piston undershoot of 3 mm. The compression ratio would seem to be 8.96, but that was not the case. The Moskvich has a convex piston, but the 406 (from which the piston comes) has a flat one! According to approximate calculations, the compression ratio is 5.9 - 6.0. Whoever likes it - either A-76(80), or a good predisposition for installing a good turbine. Now about the process itself. Pistons are taken from a 406 engine (92.5), fortunately the diameter of the piston pin is the same as the Moskvich, the shaft is from a 1.8 (2.0) liter engine with a stroke of 80 mm, the connecting rods remain original, it’s all assembled, it is advisable to fit by weight, and is set aside until assembly. Now we take the block, unscrew the cylinder head mounting studs and give it for boring. We take used liners from the 402 engine (GAZ) and bore the mounting holes for these liners.
Misha (Vasishtha) Continued
If you are talking about boring, then of course not, on a special boring machine, which are available at almost all large automobile enterprises. And there are enough such enterprises in every city. Boring the block + turning and boring the sleeves cost me 1,500 rubles. Do the rest yourself. Let's continue. Volgov cartridges by themselves will not fit into the Moskvich block. First, you need to cut them to height on a lathe, then grind them on the outside so that the wall thickness is approximately 5 mm. Any experienced turner can do this. The Moskvichevskaya sleeve serves as an example. By the way, I didn’t find any inserts there, as Singurindi wrote. Then we bore it to 92.5 mm. Now you need to grind the sleeves at the bottom so that when installed in the block there is 1.5-2 mm between them. This is done on sandpaper. The liners of the first and fourth cylinder are on one side, and the second and third are on both sides. I think the meaning is clear. I would like to draw your attention to the choice of sleeves. The lower plane, which rests on the block, should be flat (even), there were options with a groove. Now let's return to the block. I had recesses near the seats for the cartridge cases, apparently for cooling the lower part of the cartridge case (though they were clogged with rust and other debris, the seventies - instead of antifreeze, water from a puddle). These recesses had to be sealed by cold welding and new seats for the sleeves manually brought out (I think this is the most difficult of all the work). The seals for the sleeves are Volgov copper rings. Only I made a mistake - I cut them so that they wouldn’t overlap each other. But in vain - it’s copper. And I regretted the sealant when I put the sleeves in place. As a result, antifreeze leaks out somewhere, but very slowly. I noticed an emulsion after operating for about 10 hours. Well, now you can collect. The sleeves are in place. Then the crankshaft, pistons and connecting rods. And when we arrived, there was no such gasket! Fortunately, as I once mentioned. I found a grandfather who at one time cut out and banded gaskets himself. He made it for me from a standard gasket - he cut holes at 93 and ringed it with copper. 100 rubles money. We need to find it and order about two dozen more, otherwise the engine will soon be disassembled... First, we put the gasket on the head and make sure that there is at least 5 mm to the nearest water windows, otherwise the gases will trample into the antifreeze. Now you can put the head in place, set the ignition, adjust the valves, fill in oil, antifreeze, etc. By the way, I compared two carbs on a Gazelle - 2107 and DAAZ 3302. The difference is very noticeable. So I recommend installing this particular carb under such a piston. I'll try it myself in the spring. And while the tests took place on the 2107 carb, the sensations exceeded all expectations. On 205/60R15 with a bunch of tools in the trunk, when driving in second gear (1500-1700 rpm) on the asphalt, when you sharply press the pedal, the wheels break off and begin to draw stripes, and you are pressed into the seat. Personally, I'm just delighted.
Alexander (Giacomo) you mentioned a turbine...you can’t find any turbine for a Muscovite...why? I’ll explain...the Muscovite is a low-speed driver and thus he will not be able to spin the turbine to normal speed...it will produce a maximum of 1 atmosphere at full engine speed...by doing so you will not improve anything in the engine and you will spend money on useless hardware...if that’s the case for you if your Muscovite needs to draw stripes on the asphalt, then put a carburetor from Gas 52 k126k on it... great thing... my Muscovite was slipping on the ground in 3rd gear... but it was also sucking heavily from the tank
Misha (Vasishtha) thanks for the advice, I’ll take it into account
Misha (Vasishtha) There is a good site for tuning Muscovites of all models https://moskvichtuning.ru/ VISIT YOU WILL NOT REGRET
Alexander (Giacomo) I’ll do what I need myself)
Misha (Vasishtha) IS TRUE TOO =))
Sergey (Rebeka) Nonsense!!! Maybe you can also say that there are no injection Muscovites and a Muscovite will not drive it? Why the hell is Uzam not resourceful? according to you, all turbo engines spin up to 12 thousand rpm...
Alexander (Giacomo) how many revolutions does the Muscovite have??? you try to ride it at high speeds... you'll finish quickly... but an injector and a turbine are two different things
Alexander (Giacomo) here’s a classic engine, let’s say the troika still holds the turbine... but why does a Muscovite need it??? he doesn't like high revs why is that?
Alexander (Giacomo) or do you always drive before the cutoff?
Andryukha (Kliment) disagrees!!! The bonds are very resourceful (mine for sure) I personally installed the turbine myself, the result met all expectations!! ))) and I collected it as an experiment and I didn’t want to spend money on a 1500 engine for a benz80 turbo from a Kamaz TKR7, the turbine spins up of course a little late with 4 thousand, but with a powerful push I fill in a 95 carb standard with large jets, the engine is worn constantly, I constantly turn it to the maximum (7 thousand) and everything is normal ( Uzam, in my opinion, has a fairly large margin of safety)))
Andryukha (Kliment) Mikha Polenov respect for the info!!! ))) I’ll soon do as you outlined here and install my own turbo (I won’t refuse the turbo again) the result should please me))) I’ll post how and what happens on my page))) (pistons already available from 406 to 92 new and 92.5 used liners 402 I’m also looking for a shaft from uzam 1.8-2.0) make the cylinder head gasket yourself)))
Alexander (Giacomo) drank the head)))) but the impeller will not work with MAZ 500? there is also less engine speed...thereby the turbine begins to produce pressure faster
Maxim (Alister) why not install a turbine designed for medium speeds? we will get an excellent flow of torque + to traction + to acceleration; spinning up the turbine is not a problem, selecting gear ratios. gears to order. They run on diesel engines, but they don’t like high speeds either.
Alexander (Giacomo) what would be the best turbine to install? from what? I know that they put on Maz 500 and the crust began to fly from the force...
Maxim (Alister) from any Japanese or American woman with a similar amount of modification: so that she stands up, so that she twists correctly, everyone makes from what is closest to him. I wouldn’t put it at all, as I correctly noted, 126k and tire stripes on the asphalt are guaranteed.
Alexander (Giacomo) yeah and from the tank like a bucket
Maxim (Alister) well, you need to sacrifice something :) if you want drive, pay the oil workers
